Polish presidential elections: ‘We don’t like either…’
Janusz Korwin-Mikke is one of the most controversial elder statesman, former member of the European Parliament and a politician in Poland. FWM spoke with him exclusively about the presidential elections being held in his country.
Published: July 2, 2020, 9:53 am
Mr. Korwin-Mikke, the acting Polish president Andrzej Duda is the winner of the first round of the presidential elections in Poland – but he didn’t get enough votes to avoid a second round. What do you expect to happen?
Korwin-Mikke: Both competing camps have now almost 50:50 each, so it is hard to predict who will win the race in the end. Both are mobilizing. I don’t like either candidates.
Your party Coalition for the Renewal of the Republic – Liberty and Hope (KORWiN) supported Krzysztof Bosak in the elections…
Korwin-Mikke: He gained almost 7 percent of the vote. We hoped for more of course. He will not give any recommendation [about who to vote] for in the second round of the elections.
What is the main difference between the two main candidates in the second round, president Andrzej Duda and his competitor Rafal Trzaskowski from the Civic Platform?
Korwin-Mikke: Trzaskowski is a social democratic pro-Brussels liberal – but “liberal” not in the good conservative sense but in progressive sense. Mr. Duda conducts a backward-oriented policy similar to the pre-WW2-era of Poland. This policy ended for us Poles in the catastrophe of 1939, and Duda and the ruling PiS party are repeating this policy step by step. They make all the same mistakes. So we don’t like either, neither Duda nor Trzaskowski.
What are these mistakes Duda and PiS are repeating in your opinion?
Korwin-Mikke: They are trying to garner the support of the Americans. But America is a country which is far away. And if you get into a conflict with your close neighbors such as the Germans, Russians, the Ukrainians or the Lithuanians, the Americans are far away and won’t be of any help. We had the same situation in 1939 when Poland trusted the promises from London – and nothing happened. Poland was occupied by Germany and the Soviets.
So, the Polish people now have the choice between a pro-Washington president and a pro-Brussels president?
Korwin-Mikke: Exactly. And things are by far not very clear for the future. Donald Trump could go to Moscow next week and hold good talks. Or the European Union could once again move closer to Russia. Anything is possible.
Is that a problem?
Korwin-Mikke [laughing] A German should be asking that! That is the big difference between the Polish and the German people. In Poland the people love the Americans, especially for historical reasons. They were our allies in two big wars, there are a lot of Polish immigrants living in USA. Russia is not very beloved in Poland on the other hand – they occupied Poland too often for that. In Germany things are different, the Germans are generally more anti-American for the “Dolchstoss” [backstabbing] they received in two World Wars and more friendly towards Russia. And I perfectly understand that!
There is the following possible scenario: Duda gets reelected as Polish president, but Donald Trump doesn’t get reelected in November this year – then Poland has a problem, right? A US-president Joe Biden wouldn’t be Duda’s close friend anymore…
Korwin-Mikke: He would be certainly feel very alone, since Biden would certainly prefer the progressive forces in Poland. I hope Donald Trump won’t leave the White House after the US elections. But it is possible.
You are pro-Trump?
Korwin-Mikke: I have been saying this for 15 years: For any country, it is always much better to be ruled by a monkey than by a socialist.
Korwin-Mikke: Because the monkey is just a stupid animal. He sometimes chooses a right turn, sometimes left – without any reflection and sense. But the socialist always turns left – which means he is always wrong. The monkey is at least sometimes right. Donald Trump is a good example of that!
Mr. Korwin-Mikke thanks a lot for the interview.
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